History does that. What harm is there in keeping Freddie happy? She's always been on my side, I'd like to keep her there. You caught a serial killer. You saved my life. I don't see the problem.
Is it really to keep Freddie happy, or is it so you can profit monetarily? Give yourself some independence? I don't think either of you realize how much higher the stakes are in this place, and that this is more of a terrible idea than it was before.
[ maybe he can extrapolate her bitter tone, but she's the one who died. she's pretty sure she knows how high the stakes are. better than anyone. she's only got one ear left. but if she can get freddie to write about her dad, then that's where the focus will be. on garrett jacob hobbs and abigail's horrible, horrible life. on abigail, herself.
not on hannibal. not on will. because they saved her. (ahahahahahahahhahahaha hahahaha ha.) they're the "heroes" of the story.
but, you know, will is totally right and she doesn't realize how high the stakes are. #fucking children. ]
We're in a world where people can fly and turn themselves completely intangible, and you don't see how much worse of an idea it is now than it was back in a world where people had to put actual effort into abduction and gutting and murder? Look, for example, take me. I can breathe underwater. How much easier would it be to kill someone and make it look like an accidental drowning when all I have to do is take them down with me for an hour?
[Jesus Christ, Freddie didn't get it either, though he didn't go quite so far in his explanation because implying to Freddie Lounds that he'd thought about how he could totally drown someone and get away with it with his new power was a piss poor idea. If Eldon Stammets had the power of disguise, he could have taken Abigail out to his mushroom garden without any problems, and no one would have been any the wiser.
And if Abigail wants to bullshit herself into believing that Freddie can keep out wording that makes Will (and Lecter, too) or whatever his "stand in" may be sound less than heroic, he can find some swamp land to sell her with her profits.
He isn't supposed to be the Only Sane Man, what is happening, someone help him who is...no, no one help him, there would be blood. Maybe she can extrapolate his incredulous tone, because if she could see his face? She wouldn't need to hear him speak.]
[ she might be slightly shaken and abashed at the gutting comment. gutting is personal for her. so her reaction is more violent than it would have been otherwise. the texts come in rapid fire succession the way only a teenager can do it. ]
It's not like a book will make people go out on murder sprees or turn them into serial killers.
That's not how it works.
You know that.
It's my life.
My father.
My FAULT.
Shouldn't I be able to salvage something from it?
I lost my entire family. What do I even have left to lose? My other ear?
[There is so much to address here, and he's damn grateful they're not talking. He's damn grateful he's at work and can use that as a reason for him having to take his time as opposed to trying to figure out how to phrase it without giving away that he's been filled in on certain things.]
Mark David Chapman, the man who shot John Lennon (one of the Beatles), was found with a copy of The Catcher in the Rye the night he shot him. He had signed his name as the name of the main character in the book, Holden Caulfield. When they found him, he was reading it. He said the novel was his statement. He even sent something to a newspaper that urged everyone to read the book. That was 1980. In 1981, John Warnock Hinckley Jr. attempted to kill President Reagan. Do you know what book was found in his hotel room? You know why he did it? Hinckley Jr. was obsessed with an actress who had been in a movie involving a presidential assassination plot. He wanted to impress her.
It's your life, but your life includes other people. Should you be able to salvage something from what your father did? Yes you should. Of course you should. I personally do not like it but it is not my main concern if Freddie Lounds' book paints me in a bad light here. That's not why I protest. I protest because what's happened to you in the past with those other people that ties into everything I just told you. With you and some of those people stuck in a totally strange world where people can do just about anything without having to stop and think on it.
Which is not your fault in any way, Abigail. You want a book deal with Freddie Lounds that gets you money, fine. Send her to me. I've got stories that don't involve you in any way and you can have whatever monetary profits are made. I don't need it.
But don't open this door again, not here. You may not think you have anything to lose other than your ear and Freddie might not be able to see it either, but let me use some French here and call that complete bullshit.
[ not "fine, you're right" or "fine, i have more to lose" because she stubborn enough to be unwilling to admit the former and she doesn't actually believe the latter. she's a survivor, yes, but it doesn't mean she actually wants to keep going through it. ]
I'll be in Tattlecrime in some way or another no matter what I do or do not do. You have no sway on that. I have no sway on that. Don't let that stop you if you feel like you need back up.
[Hannibal gave Will a chance to get everything out on the table once, one he has yet to experience but still would not take. Abigail's getting one, too.
Only...Will is not going to do anything like what Hannibal did if she doesn't take it. So.]
[ she did say she would talk to him, just not then when she could use emotional trauma as an excuse. it doesn't mean she's itching to say "oh btw i've been alive for three months". or anything else. what if will stops liking her. ]
I figured Chilton wouldn't be the first to spill if you socked him.
[Weeh weeh an eighteen-year-old girl punched me in the face Will what is up with her did not scream competence. It also might have screamed so you should punch the other side of it because clearly I went too far.]
I'd prefer it if you didn't, I would. And if you did it, say, in front of people, you'd run a bigger risk of legal ramifications if he went that route and you had actually punched him as opposed to a slap or something lesser.
[So basically what he's saying is that Will does not approve of violent reactions to words, but if it has to happen and she can reel it back to something not too bad and not too public, then he can't really fault her for it. Who could?
If Chilton is going to be a douchebag to Abigail Hobbs, then the least terrible action he can get for it is her slapping him in the face. (What a great mental image.) He can deal with it or put himself there for further punishment. Or he could not be a douchebag to Abigail Hobbs.
He has options, okay, and plenty of them don't result in potential Ripper provocations.]
Yes. When I first got here, I knew more than Chilton or Gideon, and it was just the three of us. Chilton did tell me I'd been here before, but I don't know anything about that. Chilton hadn't been gutted, Gideon hadn't been shot, and I would not have told either of them much because those two are a powder keg. [Also brought to light that Will was totally Chilton's patient and he was not so feverish and out of it that he could not realize how bad an idea dropping that bomb would be.] I actually lied to the both of them about important events. Thought it safer for all of us. I would have kept it up if they hadn't gotten dragged back.
[And he would not have felt too bad about it, either. Finding out Gideon attacked Chilton here was more of a "well no shit" moment than a "IF I HAD ONLY COME CLEAN AND CONFESSED IT ALL THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED!!!!" One can only learn so much and live, after all.
[ it takes a long time for her reply to come. a long time. like she might have taken a nap because it's almost an hour. ]
I want to tell you. But it's dangerous. For both of us.
[ for months, staying alive was just because she was the surprise. and she knew that, she knew that hannibal was keeping her around and keeping her hidden until his agenda played out. will was just supposed to say yes, agree to go with hannibal and everyone would have been safe. but he was a good person, he wasn't like abigail, he couldn't push aside his own morals and values to ensure his own survival. it wasn't his fault, she doesn't blame him for his choice. it was still hannibal who called her father, hannibal who killed marissa, persuaded abigail to hide nick's body, cut off her ear to frame will, kept her hidden away for months, killed the only person that discovered her, persuaded her to take care of alana. it was always hannibal.
but it was hannibal who kept her alive those three months. fed her, clothed her, talked to her, kept her company, taught her to cook. she can't pretend she's not attached to him even though she knows that she shouldn't be. she was still attached to her father too. she doesn't want hannibal upset with her, she doesn't want to be expendable. and as much as she wants to tell will all of this, as much as she wishes she could just blurt it out...
she wants to stay alive.
and she never, ever wants to see the look on will's face when he finds out who killed alana bloom. ]
[Good person? Will might have to argue that. Will Graham who found out that not only had Abigail Hobbs killed Nicholas Boyle, but that Hannibal Lecter had known about it, and rather than tell anyone when it came out, what had he done? He shook his head, he let the both of them off, he heard Lecter tell him that they were her fathers and had to serve her, let that voice drive home that it had to happen.
Will had knowingly let loved ones go without justice or information on the deaths of two murdered siblings all for the sake of keeping Abigail as far out of the spotlight in the way her father had been. And then, with the arrest, with all that had happened in this mess of a world, he knew that of all the things he had let slip, none of them were about any of Abigail's crimes.
He'd been told that he was exonerated. He was not guilty, he was let out of prison.
The Boyles had two children taken from them, and Will had served to withhold closure, give closure as the accused murderer of Cassie, and then taken it all away by being cleared. What sort of torment must they have gone through for it, for his refusal to let Abigail take any blame?
He was fully aware of it. He was fully aware of just how not good he'd be if the stakes were right, meaning wrong...for someone else. He's never slept well in the first place. If he's lost any over that, it's possible he'd be none the wiser.
His reply takes no time at all.]
How about we make an agreement, in that case. You tell me what you feel comfortable telling me. If I ask you something that you don't feel comfortable answering, don't lie. Just tell me you don't want to answer. No explanation, no sorry, just that you're not answering it. [Though that might get a little awkward if someone overhears it, wouldn't it?] Or say "raspberry" or "she sells seashells by the seashore" or something.
[It's easier to get her to not say she's sorry if he can get her to say something else, anything else, something that might actually be silly.]
If it's all for her own good (and it is), why does it twist his stomach and give him that unsteady sinking feeling?
(He knows why.)]
Okay. [That word again, walk down memory lane of not being okay.] You can get his goat without physically lashing out, Abigail. I know he is not very pleased if boxed wine finds its way into "his" fridge, for one thing.
[Getting his goat is better than getting his gut, and Will did not believe for a second that terribly inferior boxed wine was enough to truly aggravate. And if it was: well, it's in a Goddman box. Don't drink it.
He has no idea how April managed it, but leaving the boxes visible is harmless. And something that Abigail can do, far preferable to violence. He didn't speak to Hans much at all, never got asked about building a snowman, but he does not want to bury a body. They need to avoid that, please.]
So, presumably, boxed wine finding it's way into his wine bottles would be equally bothersome?
[ they make automatic wine bottle fillers. they even sink the cork in. hannibal made his own beer, abigail picked up some things when she was his guest. using this knowledge to harass a psychiatrist instead of making people wine is probably much more mentally sound. ]
Chilton was abducted and cut open, had his organs pulled out of him, managed to stay alive with the help of Freddie pumping air into him. [Cut open is better than gutting, perhaps?] It's a miracle he didn't die before they got him to the hospital. That sort of damage can't ever be undone. Difficult to recover from. According to him, he has trouble with digestion. It may be far more bothersome. Not equally.
[Will doesn't buy it, that along with proteins and particular fibers, crappy wine reacts the same way. But since he planted the idea in her and she took it to the next level, best to do what he can to stamp it out.
Dietary restrictions are important. Bonus since it could lead back to Will having mentioned it, suggested it, having gone that extra step and secured Abigail to do the real dirty work. Boxed wine may not be an ear, but it still hits him in a way that he can't like.
He hopes she gets it because he needs to be wearing his own shoes as much as possible.]
really, it's lucky he explained chilton's injuries because they sound so familiar and she can see it so clearly. but it's not chilton she sees, but will slumped against the cabinets, hands pressed to his abdomen before they reached out to press against her throat. third time he saved her life and she can't even thank him for it. ]
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[ maybe he can extrapolate her bitter tone, but she's the one who died. she's pretty sure she knows how high the stakes are. better than anyone. she's only got one ear left. but if she can get freddie to write about her dad, then that's where the focus will be. on garrett jacob hobbs and abigail's horrible, horrible life. on abigail, herself.
not on hannibal. not on will. because they saved her. (ahahahahahahahhahahaha hahahaha ha.) they're the "heroes" of the story.
but, you know, will is totally right and she doesn't realize how high the stakes are. #fucking children. ]
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[Jesus Christ, Freddie didn't get it either, though he didn't go quite so far in his explanation because implying to Freddie Lounds that he'd thought about how he could totally drown someone and get away with it with his new power was a piss poor idea. If Eldon Stammets had the power of disguise, he could have taken Abigail out to his mushroom garden without any problems, and no one would have been any the wiser.
And if Abigail wants to bullshit herself into believing that Freddie can keep out wording that makes Will (and Lecter, too) or whatever his "stand in" may be sound less than heroic, he can find some swamp land to sell her with her profits.
He isn't supposed to be the Only Sane Man, what is happening, someone help him who is...no, no one help him, there would be blood. Maybe she can extrapolate his incredulous tone, because if she could see his face? She wouldn't need to hear him speak.]
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[ she might be slightly shaken and abashed at the gutting comment. gutting is personal for her. so her reaction is more violent than it would have been otherwise. the texts come in rapid fire succession the way only a teenager can do it. ]
It's not like a book will make people go out on murder sprees or turn them into serial killers.
That's not how it works.
You know that.
It's my life.
My father.
My FAULT.
Shouldn't I be able to salvage something from it?
I lost my entire family. What do I even have left to lose? My other ear?
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Mark David Chapman, the man who shot John Lennon (one of the Beatles), was found with a copy of The Catcher in the Rye the night he shot him. He had signed his name as the name of the main character in the book, Holden Caulfield. When they found him, he was reading it. He said the novel was his statement. He even sent something to a newspaper that urged everyone to read the book. That was 1980. In 1981, John Warnock Hinckley Jr. attempted to kill President Reagan. Do you know what book was found in his hotel room? You know why he did it? Hinckley Jr. was obsessed with an actress who had been in a movie involving a presidential assassination plot. He wanted to impress her.
It's your life, but your life includes other people. Should you be able to salvage something from what your father did? Yes you should. Of course you should. I personally do not like it but it is not my main concern if Freddie Lounds' book paints me in a bad light here. That's not why I protest. I protest because what's happened to you in the past with those other people that ties into everything I just told you. With you and some of those people stuck in a totally strange world where people can do just about anything without having to stop and think on it.
Which is not your fault in any way, Abigail. You want a book deal with Freddie Lounds that gets you money, fine. Send her to me. I've got stories that don't involve you in any way and you can have whatever monetary profits are made. I don't need it.
But don't open this door again, not here. You may not think you have anything to lose other than your ear and Freddie might not be able to see it either, but let me use some French here and call that complete bullshit.
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y u logic in a way abigail can completely understand and forces her to rethink her life choices.
y. ]
Fine.
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Fine what?
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[ not "fine, you're right" or "fine, i have more to lose" because she stubborn enough to be unwilling to admit the former and she doesn't actually believe the latter. she's a survivor, yes, but it doesn't mean she actually wants to keep going through it. ]
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Good to hear it.
If you need help shutting what you've opened already, let me know.
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[Hannibal gave Will a chance to get everything out on the table once, one he has yet to experience but still would not take. Abigail's getting one, too.
Only...Will is not going to do anything like what Hannibal did if she doesn't take it. So.]
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[ she did say she would talk to him, just not then when she could use emotional trauma as an excuse. it doesn't mean she's itching to say "oh btw i've been alive for three months". or anything else. what if will stops liking her. ]
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[He is pretty much Jon Snow right now.]
I figured Chilton wouldn't be the first to spill if you socked him.
[Weeh weeh an eighteen-year-old girl punched me in the face Will what is up with her did not scream competence. It also might have screamed so you should punch the other side of it because clearly I went too far.]
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[ HAS HER WHOLE LIFE BEEN A LIE???? because she'll do it, but will told her not to. :( ]
I know I know more than you. Would you believe me if I said I shouldn't tell you because it's not safe?
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[So basically what he's saying is that Will does not approve of violent reactions to words, but if it has to happen and she can reel it back to something not too bad and not too public, then he can't really fault her for it. Who could?
If Chilton is going to be a douchebag to Abigail Hobbs, then the least terrible action he can get for it is her slapping him in the face. (What a great mental image.) He can deal with it or put himself there for further punishment. Or he could not be a douchebag to Abigail Hobbs.
He has options, okay, and plenty of them don't result in potential Ripper provocations.]
Yes. When I first got here, I knew more than Chilton or Gideon, and it was just the three of us. Chilton did tell me I'd been here before, but I don't know anything about that. Chilton hadn't been gutted, Gideon hadn't been shot, and I would not have told either of them much because those two are a powder keg. [Also brought to light that Will was totally Chilton's patient and he was not so feverish and out of it that he could not realize how bad an idea dropping that bomb would be.] I actually lied to the both of them about important events. Thought it safer for all of us. I would have kept it up if they hadn't gotten dragged back.
[And he would not have felt too bad about it, either. Finding out Gideon attacked Chilton here was more of a "well no shit" moment than a "IF I HAD ONLY COME CLEAN AND CONFESSED IT ALL THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED!!!!" One can only learn so much and live, after all.
Including Will.]
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I want to tell you. But it's dangerous. For both of us.
[ for months, staying alive was just because she was the surprise. and she knew that, she knew that hannibal was keeping her around and keeping her hidden until his agenda played out. will was just supposed to say yes, agree to go with hannibal and everyone would have been safe. but he was a good person, he wasn't like abigail, he couldn't push aside his own morals and values to ensure his own survival. it wasn't his fault, she doesn't blame him for his choice. it was still hannibal who called her father, hannibal who killed marissa, persuaded abigail to hide nick's body, cut off her ear to frame will, kept her hidden away for months, killed the only person that discovered her, persuaded her to take care of alana. it was always hannibal.
but it was hannibal who kept her alive those three months. fed her, clothed her, talked to her, kept her company, taught her to cook. she can't pretend she's not attached to him even though she knows that she shouldn't be. she was still attached to her father too. she doesn't want hannibal upset with her, she doesn't want to be expendable. and as much as she wants to tell will all of this, as much as she wishes she could just blurt it out...
she wants to stay alive.
and she never, ever wants to see the look on will's face when he finds out who killed alana bloom. ]
I don't want you to get hurt because of me.
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Will had knowingly let loved ones go without justice or information on the deaths of two murdered siblings all for the sake of keeping Abigail as far out of the spotlight in the way her father had been. And then, with the arrest, with all that had happened in this mess of a world, he knew that of all the things he had let slip, none of them were about any of Abigail's crimes.
He'd been told that he was exonerated. He was not guilty, he was let out of prison.
The Boyles had two children taken from them, and Will had served to withhold closure, give closure as the accused murderer of Cassie, and then taken it all away by being cleared. What sort of torment must they have gone through for it, for his refusal to let Abigail take any blame?
He was fully aware of it. He was fully aware of just how not good he'd be if the stakes were right, meaning wrong...for someone else. He's never slept well in the first place. If he's lost any over that, it's possible he'd be none the wiser.
His reply takes no time at all.]
How about we make an agreement, in that case. You tell me what you feel comfortable telling me. If I ask you something that you don't feel comfortable answering, don't lie. Just tell me you don't want to answer. No explanation, no sorry, just that you're not answering it. [Though that might get a little awkward if someone overhears it, wouldn't it?] Or say "raspberry" or "she sells seashells by the seashore" or something.
[It's easier to get her to not say she's sorry if he can get her to say something else, anything else, something that might actually be silly.]
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[ and then when everything does come out she can say sorry. and all those apologies when she was crying against his shoulder will make sense. ]
Raspberries. No lies. No book. No punching Chilton in the face.
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If it's all for her own good (and it is), why does it twist his stomach and give him that unsteady sinking feeling?
(He knows why.)]
Okay. [That word again, walk down memory lane of not being okay.] You can get his goat without physically lashing out, Abigail. I know he is not very pleased if boxed wine finds its way into "his" fridge, for one thing.
[Getting his goat is better than getting his gut, and Will did not believe for a second that terribly inferior boxed wine was enough to truly aggravate. And if it was: well, it's in a Goddman box. Don't drink it.
He has no idea how April managed it, but leaving the boxes visible is harmless. And something that Abigail can do, far preferable to violence. He didn't speak to Hans much at all, never got asked about building a snowman, but he does not want to bury a body. They need to avoid that, please.]
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[ they make automatic wine bottle fillers. they even sink the cork in. hannibal made his own beer, abigail picked up some things when she was his guest. using this knowledge to harass a psychiatrist instead of making people wine is probably much more mentally sound. ]
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Chilton was abducted and cut open, had his organs pulled out of him, managed to stay alive with the help of Freddie pumping air into him. [Cut open is better than gutting, perhaps?] It's a miracle he didn't die before they got him to the hospital. That sort of damage can't ever be undone. Difficult to recover from. According to him, he has trouble with digestion. It may be far more bothersome. Not equally.
[Will doesn't buy it, that along with proteins and particular fibers, crappy wine reacts the same way. But since he planted the idea in her and she took it to the next level, best to do what he can to stamp it out.
Dietary restrictions are important. Bonus since it could lead back to Will having mentioned it, suggested it, having gone that extra step and secured Abigail to do the real dirty work. Boxed wine may not be an ear, but it still hits him in a way that he can't like.
He hopes she gets it because he needs to be wearing his own shoes as much as possible.]
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really, it's lucky he explained chilton's injuries because they sound so familiar and she can see it so clearly. but it's not chilton she sees, but will slumped against the cabinets, hands pressed to his abdomen before they reached out to press against her throat. third time he saved her life and she can't even thank him for it. ]
Fine.
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