If he knew for sure Will was refusing to help, and not just honestly convinced there wasn't anything he could do, he'd tell him it was a private thing. Hiding information can go both ways and while it'd probably be innocuous Clark doesn't like being played with.
But thing is, he only has a slight suspicion about it. Because Freddie mentioned him, and because of the job he said he had back home... nothing solid. And he and Freddie have a story together, in some way, so maybe hiding this from him isn't an innocuous as it seems to him.
He bites down a sigh.] I'll send you the file by text.
[He reads it, takes a second, wonders where in the hell he comes to play. He's been around a while, it's true, but not as long as the others. Kate Bishop and Loki are some sort of Wonder Twins duo when it comes to stockpiling information, even if it veers into conjecture. So where does—
—oh.
Son of a bitch. A thought not directed at Freddie, more at himself. Way to assume the worst (don't they all at this point?), just throw him overboard with the rest of the chum, he deserves it. God.]
She's still mad at Gideon. [Spoken quietly because he's more thinking aloud than anything else. It's not disbelief that prompts it. He's amused.] Doctor Frederick Chilton was in an administrative position at the Baltimore State Hospital for the Criminally Insane back where we all come from. Very accomplished. [Among other things that just aren't ever up for discussion nope no thank you goodbye nothing weird here in this universe where in the year of our Lord 2014 and beyond there are still hospitals for the criminally insane featuring dank basement cells and the cannibal mask and just it's based on books that started in the early 1980s give them a break.] He does that line of work here, too. [I don't I have chosen not to why does this keep cropping up please leave me alone.] He'd be better at putting together Captain Holiday's behaviors and how they might have changed than I would.
[Shoves off any and all glory to Chilton while simultaneously avoiding the hell out of him if he possibly can, maybe Clark won't mention Will's endorsement if he ends up talking to him??
Maybe people in this world who aren't from Baltimore don't have loose tongues about anything and everything????? MAYBE THERE IS A GOD SOMEWHERE?]
[Funny thing is: if Will hadn't mentioned Chilton at all Clark would have simply gone up the list, minding his own business and asking his questions that will probably lead to nowhere in the end but someone has to ask. But because Will mentions him, he's probably going to say Mr Graham had some nice words to share about him eventually. Credit where it's due, and why wouldn't anyone like to hear someone they know had complimented them?
(Sorry, Will).]
She seemed more scared than mad, to me. [Was he not supposed to hear that? Superhearing, etc. And to be honest the way she mentioned Gideon made Clark raise an eyebrow. He's still going to talk to him, though. Both because it seems like he could have useful information, and because he's a little bit curious of the man who had some Bad History with Heropa's favorite journalist.
(Sorry, Freddy).]
But it's hard to tell by text. I'll talk to Dr Chilton, though. Is he from the same world as you two?
[Well, it's better for that message to be passed along than anything else, no matter how much that might out Will's true intentions once it hits Chilton's ears. Still, better for Will to provide fact that could be taken as positive than the opposite. Kate Bishop already sniffed out a trail he had to throw to the wind. Better to muck up any others that might be paved out, no matter who is on it. They had a deal, and if there's one thing Will keeps as best he can (attempts to, mostly), it's his word.
Even if his reckoning didn't go so well...it's okay, Clark can't fuck up their relationship any more than it already is. He's blameless.]
Freddie Lounds, Doctor Frederick Chilton, Doctor Abel Gideon, and I all come from the same world. As well as Abigail Hobbs. [Despite the fact of the matter that Will mentions her last, there is definitely a different tone to his voice when it comes to her name, despite any efforts he might put into stamping that out. A connection. She might crop up last on the list of names, but she's first, at least in his mind.] Did she tell you why she would seem scared of Doctor Gideon?
[A little bit curious? Oh, Clark, this is the perfect place for that. Baltimore operates on a sliding scale of curiosity.
None of them are cats but it generally ends up the same way, or nearly so. Life hard.]
Not really, no. She said she didn't want to talk about it and I plan on respecting her wishes.
[Yes, he's curious. No, he isn't going to just jump and try to gather information when Freddie has drawn a line. That's where he and Lois differ (and something Lois and Freddie have in common, as weird as that thought is).]
So that's 3 out of 4 from your world I will meet. [And honestly every person he meets makes him want to know more about their world. Is everyone from Baltimore that intense? Is it something in the water? Is that their superpower? We just don't know, but Clark smells blood and even though it's not, by any stretch of imagination, a priority right now he's going to find out what's behind the Baltimore curtain.
He's already going to talk to Frederick Chilton, and even with all the warnings he's also totally going to talk to Gideon. He guesses Abigail is the next step.]
[However ridiculous it might be for someone, anyone, to say that they intend to respect the wishes of Freddie Lounds, who so often makes bank by doing the opposite, Will doesn't huff or snort or anything that leads to believe he takes it as humorous, amusing. He doesn't. He takes it as good. It's entirely possible Clark is bullshitting on that one for some sort of pretense's sake, sure, but the more people out there who don't see Freddie Lounds as a pest to be squashed out, the better.
Everyone from Baltimore is pretty intense when they're not cracking cannibal puns or trying to figure out how to take and/or respond to them so...]
Then I suppose all you need to know is that while Freddie has her reasons for not wanting to speak to Doctor Gideon or speak of him in any way that could be considered positive, that doesn't mean he can't be of help. [The wheels on the bus go round and round, all through the ???? clearer communication his ass just talk to anyone but him and Abigail okay thanks bye] And Abigail was the last of us to come here, wouldn't have much information either way.
[But she does make a great breakfast! But that doesn't mean everyone should talk to her keep your schedule as it is Clark so help him so help him]
[So here we have a) A man who's very obviously trying to avoid giving him any kind of information for some reason Clark can't figure out, even if he respects b) Telling him not to contact someone in particular and c) That someone being from the same mysterious, cryptic world that's picking Clark's curiosity.
Yeah. Will you're really nailing this one.]
I plan on at least trying to contact the man. It's not as if I haven't interviewed my fair share of dangerous people, and he happens to be living with someone I know. [It surprised him to see Bart had been noted as living in the same block, but if Bart never mentioned him Clark assumes it won't be dangerous just to talk to him.
With no comments on the Abigail front because pushing it will end badly, he can tell. He'll just tackle it later, when he's done asking about Holiday and the Porter. He didn't even have her name before you mentioned her Will what have you done.]
[He's not nailed worse things in worse ways, okay. Just. Cut him a break, Goddamn.
Though...aha....ha.............haaaaaaa, the idea of any one of Baltimore's crowd here being considered not dangerous is something he's still surprised by, constantly. Every time it comes up, he has to remind himself. And then promptly grab the counter and take a deep breath as soon as no one else is around to see it. Does this count as an interview???]
Don't see why he wouldn't talk to you if you contacted him. [As long as Clark did not ask or mention Will too much (maybe not at all), Gideon was probably fed up with questions about Will Graham and his soul and whatever the fuck else.] Little reason not to.
[No mention of whoever Clark knows because, hell, if Gideon was up to any in-home tricks, he's sure they would know. The only other thing he can think of has something to do with manners, thanks to Gideon's condition and just.
He's.
Not really in a position to talk about politeness at the moment, is he? Clark's eyeroll might be audible if he did.
Then I have little reason not to contact the man, do I?
[How about the fact that Freddie, who's known for fearlessly interviewing psychopaths like Lunatic and being unafraid of the risks, is telling him not? Just because Lois's brand of journalism could be summarized with a mix of 'YOLO' and 'You can win a Pulitzer posthumously so might as well' it doesn't mean he has to follow his footsteps.
But he never listens.]
It's been a pleasure talking to you again, Mr Graham. Thank you for all the help, really- and I'm sorry for any missunderstanding I might have caused. [Pls don't tell Freddie I ruined things?]
[Ah, but Freddie is biased. Freddie is very, very biased. It's not too much of a risky thing if he looks at it that way, is it? Will certainly doesn't find it a bad thing, won't make a move to protest. There are worse things to suggest and encourage other than attempted discussion with Abel Gideon, other than not listening to everything Freddie Lounds might or might not say about the Baltimore crowd.
Sometimes it pays not to listen; you go, Clark.
Has it really been a pleasure? Has it really??? Arguing otherwise would only work against him rather than for him. Clark might be doing nothing other than being polite with that one, and who is he to discourage politeness? Rudeness...that's simply not to be tolerated. Now what would Hannibal say?
Wait no.]
You're welcome, Clark, and nothing to apologize for. [Less Hannibal, still polite, usage of first name, permission to use Will, please call him Will. A+, he deserves whiskey.] Good luck with finding what you need, too.
[Ugh he can't hang up with that one why can't he just hang up on that why is it so difficult to just say goodbye, he hasn't—oh God, it's the most wonderful time of the year for ending uncomfortable conversations without being completely awkward, isn't it? IT IS.]
Happy holidays.
[NAILED IT? MAYBE. Maybe he nailed it, but either way: that's all there is to it, click, goodbye, not telling Freddie Lounds shit.]
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If he knew for sure Will was refusing to help, and not just honestly convinced there wasn't anything he could do, he'd tell him it was a private thing. Hiding information can go both ways and while it'd probably be innocuous Clark doesn't like being played with.
But thing is, he only has a slight suspicion about it. Because Freddie mentioned him, and because of the job he said he had back home... nothing solid. And he and Freddie have a story together, in some way, so maybe hiding this from him isn't an innocuous as it seems to him.
He bites down a sigh.] I'll send you the file by text.
[And so, he does.]
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—oh.
Son of a bitch. A thought not directed at Freddie, more at himself. Way to assume the worst (don't they all at this point?), just throw him overboard with the rest of the chum, he deserves it. God.]
She's still mad at Gideon. [Spoken quietly because he's more thinking aloud than anything else. It's not disbelief that prompts it. He's amused.] Doctor Frederick Chilton was in an administrative position at the Baltimore State Hospital for the Criminally Insane back where we all come from. Very accomplished. [Among other things that just aren't ever up for discussion nope no thank you goodbye nothing weird here in this universe where in the year of our Lord 2014 and beyond there are still hospitals for the criminally insane featuring dank basement cells and the cannibal mask and just it's based on books that started in the early 1980s give them a break.] He does that line of work here, too. [I don't I have chosen not to why does this keep cropping up please leave me alone.] He'd be better at putting together Captain Holiday's behaviors and how they might have changed than I would.
[Shoves off any and all glory to Chilton while simultaneously avoiding the hell out of him if he possibly can, maybe Clark won't mention Will's endorsement if he ends up talking to him??
Maybe people in this world who aren't from Baltimore don't have loose tongues about anything and everything????? MAYBE THERE IS A GOD SOMEWHERE?]
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(Sorry, Will).]
She seemed more scared than mad, to me. [Was he not supposed to hear that? Superhearing, etc. And to be honest the way she mentioned Gideon made Clark raise an eyebrow. He's still going to talk to him, though. Both because it seems like he could have useful information, and because he's a little bit curious of the man who had some Bad History with Heropa's favorite journalist.
(Sorry, Freddy).]
But it's hard to tell by text. I'll talk to Dr Chilton, though. Is he from the same world as you two?
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Even if his reckoning didn't go so well...it's okay, Clark can't fuck up their relationship any more than it already is. He's blameless.]
Freddie Lounds, Doctor Frederick Chilton, Doctor Abel Gideon, and I all come from the same world. As well as Abigail Hobbs. [Despite the fact of the matter that Will mentions her last, there is definitely a different tone to his voice when it comes to her name, despite any efforts he might put into stamping that out. A connection. She might crop up last on the list of names, but she's first, at least in his mind.] Did she tell you why she would seem scared of Doctor Gideon?
[A little bit curious? Oh, Clark, this is the perfect place for that. Baltimore operates on a sliding scale of curiosity.
None of them are cats but it generally ends up the same way, or nearly so. Life hard.]
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[Yes, he's curious. No, he isn't going to just jump and try to gather information when Freddie has drawn a line. That's where he and Lois differ (and something Lois and Freddie have in common, as weird as that thought is).]
So that's 3 out of 4 from your world I will meet. [And honestly every person he meets makes him want to know more about their world. Is everyone from Baltimore that intense? Is it something in the water? Is that their superpower? We just don't know, but Clark smells blood and even though it's not, by any stretch of imagination, a priority right now he's going to find out what's behind the Baltimore curtain.
He's already going to talk to Frederick Chilton, and even with all the warnings he's also totally going to talk to Gideon. He guesses Abigail is the next step.]
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Everyone from Baltimore is pretty intense when they're not cracking cannibal puns or trying to figure out how to take and/or respond to them so...]
Then I suppose all you need to know is that while Freddie has her reasons for not wanting to speak to Doctor Gideon or speak of him in any way that could be considered positive, that doesn't mean he can't be of help. [The wheels on the bus go round and round, all through the ???? clearer communication his ass just talk to anyone but him and Abigail okay thanks bye] And Abigail was the last of us to come here, wouldn't have much information either way.
[But she does make a great breakfast! But that doesn't mean everyone should talk to her keep your schedule as it is Clark so help him so help him]
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Yeah. Will you're really nailing this one.]
I plan on at least trying to contact the man. It's not as if I haven't interviewed my fair share of dangerous people, and he happens to be living with someone I know. [It surprised him to see Bart had been noted as living in the same block, but if Bart never mentioned him Clark assumes it won't be dangerous just to talk to him.
With no comments on the Abigail front because pushing it will end badly, he can tell. He'll just tackle it later, when he's done asking about Holiday and the Porter. He didn't even have her name before you mentioned her Will what have you done.]
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Though...aha....ha.............haaaaaaa, the idea of any one of Baltimore's crowd here being considered not dangerous is something he's still surprised by, constantly. Every time it comes up, he has to remind himself. And then promptly grab the counter and take a deep breath as soon as no one else is around to see it. Does this count as an interview???]
Don't see why he wouldn't talk to you if you contacted him. [As long as Clark did not ask or mention Will too much (maybe not at all), Gideon was probably fed up with questions about Will Graham and his soul and whatever the fuck else.] Little reason not to.
[No mention of whoever Clark knows because, hell, if Gideon was up to any in-home tricks, he's sure they would know. The only other thing he can think of has something to do with manners, thanks to Gideon's condition and just.
He's.
Not really in a position to talk about politeness at the moment, is he? Clark's eyeroll might be audible if he did.
Ruined shit as per usual.]
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[How about the fact that Freddie, who's known for fearlessly interviewing psychopaths like Lunatic and being unafraid of the risks, is telling him not? Just because Lois's brand of journalism could be summarized with a mix of 'YOLO' and 'You can win a Pulitzer posthumously so might as well' it doesn't mean he has to follow his footsteps.
But he never listens.]
It's been a pleasure talking to you again, Mr Graham. Thank you for all the help, really- and I'm sorry for any missunderstanding I might have caused. [Pls don't tell Freddie I ruined things?]
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Sometimes it pays not to listen; you go, Clark.
Has it really been a pleasure? Has it really??? Arguing otherwise would only work against him rather than for him. Clark might be doing nothing other than being polite with that one, and who is he to discourage politeness? Rudeness...that's simply not to be tolerated. Now what would Hannibal say?
Wait no.]
You're welcome, Clark, and nothing to apologize for. [Less Hannibal, still polite, usage of first name, permission to use Will, please call him Will. A+, he deserves whiskey.] Good luck with finding what you need, too.
[Ugh he can't hang up with that one why can't he just hang up on that why is it so difficult to just say goodbye, he hasn't—oh God, it's the most wonderful time of the year for ending uncomfortable conversations without being completely awkward, isn't it? IT IS.]
Happy holidays.
[NAILED IT? MAYBE. Maybe he nailed it, but either way: that's all there is to it, click, goodbye, not telling Freddie Lounds shit.]